Building Assymmetric Defenses w/ Zainab Majid

Mon, 11 May 2026 00:00:00 +0000

Zainab Majid, co-founder of Asymmetric Security, joins Jacob for a conversation on the intersection between AI Safety and cybersecurity, as well as the future of digital forensics. Drawing from years of incident response work, she explains how cyber attacks actually unfold, why AI is changing both offense and defense, and how her team is building AI-native tools to investigate breaches faster and more effectively. Other topics explored in this episode include trust in the AI/cybersecurity industries, the realities behind cybersecurity hype, and the challenge of keeping humans meaningfully involved as these systems become more capable. Zainab also gives practical, actionable advice on how you can protect yourself.

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INTERVIEW RECORDED 2026.04.18; ASIDES RECORDED 2026.05.06; TRANSCRIPT

Chapters

00:00 ❙ Intro

04:34 ❙ Zainab's Background

08:49 ❙ Jacob & Zainab's History

16:03 ❙ Founding Asymmetric Security

24:49 ❙ How to Know Who You Can Trust

36:31 ❙ The Threats Asymmetric Is Built to Fight

05:54 ❙ What's Asymmetric Tackling Next?

15:33 ❙ Glasswing, Dual Use, and Power Concentration

24:21 ❙ The Relationship Between AI Safety & Cybersecurity

37:01 ❙ Outro

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Building Assymmetric Defenses w/ Zainab Majid

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